After the Warranty What Will the C-Max Battery Cost to Replace?

2013 Ford C-Max Energi

2013 Ford C-Max Energi – The high-voltage battery is in the rear beneath the cargo area.

If you’re considering buying a C-Max, you might be concerned about the cost of replacing the lithium ion battery when it fails.  A recent article in Autobloggreen said it wasn’t “all that expensive.”  The C-Max warranty is 8 years and 100,000 miles for the hybrid components, which includes the lithium ion battery.  In California, Arizona, Connecticut, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont and Washington the hybrid components (which includes the battery) are covered for a longer 10 years and 150,000 miles warranty (if your state passes the California emissions warranty, your warranty should be extended too).  Although the warranty isn’t for 10-years and 150,000 miles in most states, Ford does state that the battery will last more than 10-years and 150,000 miles.  Ford’s Chief Electrified Powertrain Engineer Mazen Hammoud stated in a recent Twitter question and answer that, “The battery is designed to last for the life of the vehicle.”

According to GreenCarReports.com, hybrid battery packs are designed to last the life of the vehicle (about 15 years).  What if your battery doesn’t last?  The C-Max lithium ion battery for the 2013 Hybrid is listed on the official Ford parts web site.  The price is $3,510.38, part number 10B759.  This is a 1.4 kWh battery.  The battery for the C-Max Energi is the same part number and costs $8,546.87.  It is a 7.6 kWh battery.  Two factors may drop the cost to you.  First, you will need to drive the C-Max for more than 100,000 miles or 8 years, whichever is less before you bear the cost of replacement.  Once this warranty time period has passed, the cost of batteries should have dropped.  Second, Toyota gives Prius owners a “core credit” when they replace their batteries.  Toyota is currently charging $3,649 for a first- or second-generation battery, but the core credit is $1350 bringing the cost to $2,299.  Perhaps Ford will also give owners a core credit.  There is also a substantial labor cost for replacing the battery.  Last July, GreenCarReports described the experience of a Prius owner.  The total replacement cost with service was $4,400.  The owner walked out in shock at the price.  Later, the owner asked the service department for a better quote.  This time the total was $2,931.

According to Autobloggreen, “Consumer Reports has been impressed with the reliability of hybrid batteries and performance of the cars overall.”  Hopefully, C-Max owners are impressed with the reliability in 2020, eight years from now too.

This blog was published on 4 Dec 2012, updated on 13 Dec 2012 and revised and republished on September 28, 2013.

 

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C-Max Energi Tax Credit

C-Max Energi Charge Port with Nissan Leaf Charger

Ford C-Max Energi Charge Port with Nissan Leaf J1772 Charger

The C-Max Energi is now appearing on the IRS web site.  It qualifies for a tax credit of $4007.  [The IRS has now stated that the tax credit is $4,007.  It was previously listed at $3751 and stated by Ford as $3750.]  The publication describing the tax credit is here.  The IRS document describing how the tax credit is calculated is here.  The C-Max has a 7.6 kWh battery.  This is the IRS statement for the calculation, “For vehicles acquired after 12/31/2009, the credit is equal to $2,500 plus, for a vehicle which draws propulsion energy from a battery with at least 5 kilowatt hours of capacity, $417, plus an additional $417 for each kilowatt hour of battery capacity in excess of 5 kilowatt hours.”  [The language is ambiguous and the IRS has now stated the credit is $4007.  The $3751 credit assumed that the 7.6 kWh battery uses 7 kWh for the calculation.  The fractional kWh is now used in the calculation.  That results in a tax credit of $4007.  IRS form 8936 is used to claim the credit.  Details of the credit are in an IRS notice.  The credit is not phased out until Ford has sold 200,000 vehicles that qualify for the credit.  At the present time, the C-Max Energi, Focus Electric, and Fusion Energi are the only Ford cars that qualify for the credit.  It will take quite awhile before Ford sells 200,000 of these three models.

The $4,007 tax credit for the Energi is not lost when the Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT) is applicable.  Here’s an IRS Q&A on the topic:

Q. Does the Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT) impact the alternative motor vehicle credit?

A. Starting in 2009, the new law allows the alternative motor vehicle credit, including the tax credit for purchasing hybrid vehicles, to be applied against the alternative minimum tax. Prior to the new law, the alternative motor vehicle credit could not be used to offset the AMT.

The Department of Energy web site to find state laws and incentives for hybrid and electric vehicles is located here.

Ford C-Max Hybrid (not Energi) owners do not qualify for a Federal Tax credit.

This blog was first published 22 Nov 2012.  It was updated 13 Dec 2012, 26 Dec 2012,  April 12, 2013, and September 27, 2013.

 

 

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Learning How to Operate the C-Max with Ford Videos

Ford has produced many videos illustrating the operation of the C-Max Hybrid or Energi.  They are disorganized and mixed with videos for other vehicles.  I’ve listed the videos that are applicable to the C-Max below.  Captions of videos that apply only to the C-Max Energi start with Energi.  Other videos are for both vehicles.

Fueling

Pressurized Gasoline Fuel Door

Energi Fuel Freshness and Oil Maintenance

Energi Charging

Energi Installation of a 240V Charging Station, Note: This is not required.  A 120V Charger is included with the Energi.  There are also other 240V solutions which I wrote about in a earlier blog.

 MyFord Mobile (Videos for Energi Only)

MyFord® Mobile – Introduction and Registration for your Ford C-MAX Energi

MyFord Mobile – Smartphone Features for your Ford C-Max Energi

MyFord Mobile – Programming your Ford C-MAX Energi Charge Settings

MyFord Mobile – Website Features for your Ford C-MAX Energi

C-Max Energi Gauge Detail

Ford C-Max Energi Gauge Detail

Instrument Panel

Instrument Panel Cluster Display

Energi Instrument Panel Overview, Short Version

Energi Instrument Panel Overview, Long Version

Energi Display Mode: Range, Inform, Enlighten, Engage, Empower and MyView

Energi, EV Now, EV Later, and Auto EV

Energi EV Range and Instantaneous Fuel Gauge

Fuel Economy Menu in Instrument Panel Cluster Display

Trip and Lifetime Summary

Setting Trip Data

Safety

Integrated Blind Spot Mirrors

Improving MPG

Brake Coach

EV+ and ECO Cruise Control

Other

Electric Park Brake Control

Headset Adjustment

Rain Wiper Control

Rain Sensing Wipers

Power Window Control

Power Liftgate Features

Foot-activated Liftgate

C-Max Energi MyFord Touch Sony Audio

Ford C-Max Energi MyFord Touch Sony Audio System Front View

SYNC, MyFord, Navigation and RearView Camera

MyFord Touch – Programming your Ford C-Max Energi Charge Settings

MyFord Touch – Programming your Ford C-Max Energi Go Times

SYNC with MyFord Touch: System Settings/Master Reset

Using the 8-inch Touch Screen

Getting Help and System Information

Changing the Display Brightness

SYNC Services

MyFord Touch Overview

Using Voice Commands

SYNC with MyFord Touch Climate Control

Using Auto or Dual Mode Climate Controls

Setting the Temperature to “My Temp”

Heated and Cooled Seats

Heated Steering Wheel

Clean Pairing a Bluetooth Phone

SYNC Hands-free Features, Auto Call Transfer, Phone Book Download, Call and Text with Voice Commands

Making a Phone Call

Receiving an Incoming Call

Receiving a Call with Privacy Mode

Do Not Disturb

Receving & Sending Text Messages

Vehicle Health Report and 911 Assist App and Installing new Ford Software

SYNC AppLink, Controlling Apps with Voice Commands

Navigation: Setting My Home

Navigation: Setting a Destination

Navigation: Saving Favorite Destinations

Navigation Route Options

Getting Directions with SYNC Services

Rear View Camera Settings

Setting the Clock

Settings: Enabling Valet Mode

Setting and Adjusting Ambient Lighting

Adding Wall Paper to the Home Screen

SYNC Music and Audio on iPhone Controlled with Voice Commands

Setting Radio Presets

Playing Music from an iPhone or other MP3 Player via USB

Playing Music from an iPhone or other MP3 Player via Bluetooth

Choosing Entertainment Features by Voice

This blog was edited on January 6th, 19th and March 31, 2013.

 

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